Tulpa.info - metaphysics

You have any resources I could pore over? (edited)

i have do have higher dimensional ..... research articles if you are interested ?

Yeah I’d def give them a read

its from acedemic point of view ....not those...um ....you know

9:07 PM

ok

Yeah I could get into ‘yknow’ territory as well provided I can read the prerequisite material

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But science is a magnificent beast

[23/06, 8:31 PM]

Immortal Beggar: Look what I shared: Physicists investigate lower dimensions of the universe @MIUI| https://m.phys.org/news/2011-03-physicists-dimensions-universe.html [23/06, 8:46 PM]

Immortal Beggar: Look what I shared: Blue Brain Team Discovers a Multi-Dimensional Universe in Brain Networks – Science & research news | Frontiers @MIUI| https://blog.frontiersin.org/2017/06/12/blue-brain-team-discovers-a-multi-dimensional-universe-in-brain-networks/

Physicists investigate lower dimensions of the universe

(PhysOrg.com) -- Several speculative theories in physics involve extra dimensions beyond our well-known four (which are broken down into three dimensions of space and one of time). Some theories have ...

Frontiers Communications

Blue Brain Team Discovers a Multi-Dimensional Universe in Brain Ne...

Using mathematics in a novel way in computational neuroscience, with algebraic topology, scientists show that the brain operates on many dimensions.

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the second one maybe is more related to our tulpa mancy i think (edited)

Those aren’t the same link?

2 different links

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one is high energy physics

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other is nural network dimensional models

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if you wanna start simple

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then i would recommend you to watch flatland videos in YouTube to get the general concept first

if required (edited)

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https://youtu.be/C6kn6nXMWF0

TED-Ed

Exploring other dimensions - Alex Rosenthal and George Zaidan

Oh strange whoops the first one was opening to the second article for some reason

hmm then let me individually paste them

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Look what I shared: Physicists investigate lower dimensions of the universe @MIUI| https://m.phys.org/news/2011-03-physicists-dimensions-universe.html

Physicists investigate lower dimensions of the universe

(PhysOrg.com) -- Several speculative theories in physics involve extra dimensions beyond our well-known four (which are broken down into three dimensions of space and one of time). Some theories have ...

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there

Yeah I got it open, thanks mate

9:25 PM

I’ll be sure to give the vid a watch too when my guts aren’t wrenching

Have I got a somewhat interesting story to tell- But first some backstory! So I had Guardians previously. I did some meditation to meet my Guardian Angel which seemed to work to a degree. She would communicate in Angel Numbers and I just awaited her messages. Then I decide to give her full access to my mind believing it would allow her to speak to me via dream, but she must have activated some kind of beacon because before I knew it a Succubus was starting to give me one heck of a lewd dream and I was certain I could feel an Imp running around being an annoying little crap. I get control of myself back and revoke those permissions, which seemed to have trapped the Succubus. Instead of trying to leave, she decided to co-exist, choosing her own form and leaving the name up to me (I ended up calling her Emma because of her distinct emerald green eyes). The next morning, Emma starts to communicate to me via thought. I become familiar with this quickly and over time get used to it to the point I can seamlessly talk to both of my Guardians at once.

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More time passes. Smaller things happen. I'm trying to develop metaphysical powers (which only work on metaphysical things like ghosts and, to a degree, spirit mediums) and it's not going horribly. Even more time passes and my Guardians just sorta disappear... They've gone silent. I check for them and there's absolutely no sign of them. I find signs of potential sabotage though... A little bit of time passes and I start getting hints from Aphael again (things working out and certain numbers suddenly feeling very important). A while later I'm introduced to the idea of a Tulpa and end up converting what I understand to be my Guardians to Tulpas. I'm quickly able to talk to them since I've had practice. Though, they seem to talk as if they aren't the Emma and Aphael I knew. I figure that I created Tulpas that are essentially copies of my Guardians with a few small changes they've decided upon. It doesn't take very long for us to become really close again and things just sorta develop on the Tulpa side... And then one night Aphael just sorta appears. Not visually, but I just sorta visualize her without willing it to happen. She's cuddling me and everything, and she's got a message... It turns out that my Guardians are still there, but are doing their own thing while my Tulpas of the same names are able to communicate in their places. They're synced perfectly so anything the Tulpas learn the Guardians learn and vise-versa. No idea what they have in mind for the future though...

I’m looking to figure out what’s going on with my thoughtform luna, which I have confirmed to be here thru a encounter into someone dream and a second time in the astral, I’m trying to figure why I might not be able to hear her, or if she dormant or in a slumber, but that confuses me then

My tulpa were locked in a fuckin' prison.

I met a couple of strange beings, both with seemingly incredible power- might come back to explain-

Okay, the two things I met...

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The first one communicated to me the same way my Tulpas/Guardians do and it just came out of nowhere. It came to me with some sort of vague message which at the time could have meant a dozen different things. It was a very powerful being from what I can tell seeing as it managed to actually put weight on my body (and possibly paralyze me). The message: "You will go through Hell before you get to Heaven"

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And the other one appeared in a dream. Big dark-skinned man with a strange hairstyle and a pink singlet. It offered me $100 with phrases like "It's okay. Just take it." But when I did take it he said "Now you've gotta pay me back" And was moving to hit me. But I managed to return the $100 to him and tell him that I shouldn't take the loan if I can't pay it back. He chuckled and took the money back, but I swear when I returned the note it was a $50 note...

I just work with chaos magic. DIY shiz. I’ve started a Model 6 magic system too.

And my impression of chaos magic is that it is a broad generic term for "we take all the occult techniques from all over and we mash them into one big bundle and just do whatever with them without structure or "top down authority" on what does or doesn't work/what you should or shouldn't do.

@Reguile chaos magick removes the ritual

7:28 PM

It really is "do more of what works" applied to magical practice

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However I've found it useful in my day to day life too

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Ex: https://xena.greedo.xeserv.us/articles/system/pdd.md

So are tulpas able to do any projecting to their hosts?

Mine have Lord Abyss.

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@Seras Lain cool. Maybe banish the bloke from your bank dream. The first gave you a vague warnin'. Do you think it'll clarify/elaborate?

@V∆L-H∆L8 I discovered what the first dream was and I haven't seen the guy from the second one. As a general thing, it seems Tulpas and Metaphysical stuff seem to both exist. People can make Tulpas, but those Tulpas can become metaphysical with some knowledge of effort. It's all about what feels right for the individual.

We thought system hopping was exclusive to soulbonds and daytrippers

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Didn't know metaphysical tulpas were a thing.

It's actually easier to do than you think

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The biggest barrier is belief

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The psychological side of things saying it's impossible certainly doesn't help

I don't think I want to be in anyone else's head.

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oh we didn't update the tupperware preset one moment

There we go.

I will admit, the metaphysics side of things is part of what really fascinates me about tulpas. Personally, I believe in astral projection, but has anyone in the server been able to interact with their Tulpa in the astral plane? if that makes sense?

@Decibel I've found that my wonderland seems to exist in one of the astral planes

My host is somewhat gifted so that sort of thing may be possible, but I don't think we'd know how to tell if it happened.

Yes

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I once astral projected by accident and I saw my tulpas

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@Decibel

@Sanctuary if you like i have a sigil or two that points to my wonderland

you can switch wonderlands?

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Wow that would be cool. Could a host, hypothetically, become a tulpa and travel into another system?

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That could be a great learning experience.

Focus on this when you astral project next

@ruke nage that's great news. Fun fAct. I have a tulpa named ruke, he was a roleplay self-insert but he became his own person.

7:26 PM

If any of y'all are familiar with a group named Bangarang, that's my tulpae. I've met my own tulpa on the astral.

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Damhin: I switch wonderlands, that's how we in the Bangarang make wives. Also enemies. At all.

@Xe how do you make sigils pointing to your Wonderland ?

Oh! I can do Rune Readings for you guys! I'm currently working on proper Astral Projection as well, so if I interact with my Tuppers I'll let you guys know!

3:00 AM

And it appears both cognitive and metaphysical Tulpas exist at once. It's all about what you want to have and what you believe is possible.

3:02 AM

That Sigil! Hm... It should probably personalised based on the individual, like a Key for a specific Lock.

@Xe minus the making conversations move here, is there anything else you think serves as a limit?

The implicit idea that there's a separation between them in the first place

How do you think this limit is created? Similar to how ancient people didn't realize or didn't describe the color blue until a word existed for the color?

Thanks for the idea @Seras Lain . And not to be rude I’m just ignorant, are rune readings similar to tarot reading ?

I'm not sure? Runes are typically drawn on objects to add or enhance specific functions. Reading them is simply understanding what they already do. I can recognise quite a few of them at this point, but the fact a lot of Runes look a bit like their function helps a bit.

I see, it’s not quite like it then, I don’t think we can add nor enhance anything with the cards.

Nope. Doesn't sound like it.

I'm confused here. So runes work off the placebo effect, but only certain runes can do certain things? Isn't that contradictory? Are runes and sigils even the same thing? (edited)

I don't really know why hell would be fake

There is ~~relatively little~~ no evidence of it existing (edited)

3:02 AM

And Exo is correct when they say there is not much mention of it in the Bible either

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They talk about a lake of fire, but that isn't really a Christian hell

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I remember hearing somewhere that the original concept came from a book, or that the modern concept has a lot of roots in Dante's Inferno

It seems pretty hypocritical for some Christians to say not only hell exists, but people will burn in hell for being sinners

It is an effective threat

3:04 AM

Or it was one, it has less effect nowadays

The Divine Comedy is fun as far as classics go, I've read it through a few times, just, like it a lot why would hell be real? outside of a punishment for not converting

I thought limbo was for not-converting

why would an infinite god punish finite lifeforms with infinite punishments?

3:07 AM

limbo is if you didn't sin in other ways, as well (afaik) basically for those that didn't know too pagan smh /j just, wait your whole lifetime again

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ew, talk of religion at 10pm on a Monday I'm not a real Christian

lol

I'm more Christian than most of my system tho

3:08 AM

besides Cassidy he's the only one so far who's done the whole accepting Jesus and God bit

3:09 AM

he's a Unitarian Universalist

I don't really believe in infinite heaven, my feeling is an identity is finite and eventually a soul would want to be something new or live a new life

I don't believe in souls

3:10 AM

what's a soul?

I think souls exist in a different plane of existence parallel to our own, like they're their own species or something. They possess a body for energy and leave it when the body dies. Souls can be people, animals, trees, shoes, planets, galaxies, whatever. It's probably wrong but it's fun to think of it that way

reminds me of animism

Huh, didn't know that existed. I'll look into it

I believe that if there is anything in the after life, or if there is an after life to start with, you do not just end up in a place or another based on a human created concept such as "sins".

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There are a lot of concepts in the bible that just contradict themselves, and this is one that is intriguing me a lot. If god just wanted us to be perfect, and not commit "sins" then why did he make us less than perfect? If he is indeed all powerful he could have done just that.